Poll: Weigh in on the Supreme Court Health Care Ruling
Georgia's governor says the state may delay taking any steps to comply with the Affordable Health Care Act until after the November election. Take our poll and let us what you think.
- By Anna Varela
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- June 29, 2012
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5 pm - Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal put out a release expressing disappointment in the ruling and called it "a huge setback for fiscal sanity and personal liberty." State Attorney General Sam Olens joined Deal in calling for Congress to repeal the law, and Deal hinted at a news conference that Georgia is unlikely to take steps to implement the law until after the November election.
3:53 pm - A Sandy Springs physical therapist talks about why she supports today's Supreme Court ruling, for personal and professional reasons.
3:37 pm - The NPR website has posted a copy of the Supreme Court's decision, complete with reporters' notes explaining the legal logic behind the ruling.
3:10 pm - People in and around Decatur weigh in on the court's decision. Though this is a liberal leaning community, opinions are mixed.
2:05 pm - Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal says it's too soon to say if Georgia will set up its own insurance exchange program or allow Georgians to be under a federally-run insurance exchange. He noted the election is in November and that could determine how Georgia moves forward. "We are probably going to be in a holding pattern" until the fall elections, he said.
Deal said the state would have to spend more than $620 million in additional funds if it were to expand Medicaid coverage and address the other state-level provisions in the Affordable Health Care Act. [UPATE: Deal corrects himself and says the dollar figure would be $76.3 million to expand health care coverage to an additional 620,000 Georgians.]
"It's way too early to know exactly what the outcome is going to be there."
Deal said he was surprised that the court upheld the individual mandate.
1:24 pm - Atlanta-based WebMD offers a breakdown of what the health care law means for people's daily lives.
1:05 pm - Here's what some Tucker Patch readers have to say about the decision.
12:49 - DeKalb County CEO Burrell Ellis releases a statement praising the Supreme Court ruling:
“Today is a great day for millions of Americans and nearly two million Georgians who currently live without health insurance. ...I commend President Barack Obama for his vision and willingness to fight on behalf of the American people.”
12:15 - President Obama speaks and calls the ruling a victory for all Americans. "No illness or accident should lead to any family's financial ruin." He reviews the most popular elements of the Affordable Health Care Act, including a provision that allows parents to keep adult children on their family health plan longer.
11:56 - Mitt Romney calls for "repeal of Obamacare" during address to media in Washington. "I'm asking the people of America to join me ... help us defeat the liberal agenda."
10:40 - Georgia's GOP chairwoman voices her opposition to the decision.
10:37 - Fox News reports that President Obama will address the Supreme Court ruling in the next few hours.
10:19 - Supreme Court has upheld the the Affordable Care Act in a 5-4 decision.
10:16 - CNN now reports that a more thorough review of the ruling shows that the invididual mandate has been upheld. It appears that the Obama healthcare law as a whole has been upheld.
10:14 - CNN reports that the U.S. Supreme Court has issued its long-awaited ruling on President Obama's health care overhaul, known as the Affordable Care Act. The network reports that the individual mandate, the requirement that all Americans buy insurance, is unconstitutional.
Patch will provide updates throughout the day, but we want to hear what you think?
Did the court make the right decision? And what about the political implications - is today's decision helps or hurts Obama's run for reelection?
Tell us what you think in the comments area below.
Here is some background material for readers who want to dive into the details:
- You can find the full text of the law at Healthcare.gov.
- The Washington Post offers some interesting graphics that show several parts of the law have been very popular, though the law as a whole has struggled to get support from a majority of Americans.
- The New York Times has broken down the number of uninsured people in America based on whether the law is upheld.
Brian C.
10:23 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
this wrong, initial reports were incorrect. individual mandate is upheld
Anna Varela
10:25 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Yes. Many news outlets initially reported this incorrectly. We've updated!
Timothy Darnell
10:23 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Do you agree with the Supreme Court's decision?
Fourth ward
10:49 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Well people dont want government healthcare and they dont like paying for others. So the only way is everyone has to get health ins. The funny thing is people on right let the congressman and senators get them all fired up. They all have wonderful government health care for life.
Chiggerbug
11:20 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
As long as they give us the same level of care that they have for life, it would be fine. Or they can come down off their high horse and have to pay for their own health insurance and no salary for life after even just one term in office, and put them on the same level playing field as the regular folks.
Leslie Preveaux
11:04 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Fourth Ward is spot on.
theangrypatron
11:05 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Best news ever! As one with a preexisting condition I am so relieved that I will still be able to get insurance after I retire.
My Opinion
3:33 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Yes, but at what price???
rick
11:05 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I'm shocked, finally a branch of Government acting for the people and not their 'party lines'.............
Arnold Butler
11:15 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Yes. Whether we agree or disagree...The Supreme Court is the Law of the Land...Most of its decisions are final. The Supreme Court has a history of correcting the ills of our society.
Patrick
11:17 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I think the conservatives should look on the bringht side of the decision--they can use the Obamacare law to pay for a ride in a "Waaaaah-bulance" on their way to the hospital to treat their bruised egos. :)
Krista Brewer
11:21 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
While I would rather have had "medicare for all," I certainly agree with the Supreme Court decision. We need to get on with the implementation of this and with improving health outcomes!!!
David
11:29 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
This mandate will cause the closing of many small businesses that simply can't afford health care. This ruling, along with the Obama administration stinks!
Silence Dogood
12:38 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
doubt it..
Jim Davis
12:28 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
That is not true.
Many small businesses can't afford health care.. and more are being priced out each year. The ACA provides an opportunity for many employees to obtain their own coverage with premium support and cost sharing. Unless you are a high income earner, you will probably benefit. A good summary is on the Kaiser Family Foundation "focus on health reform" page. If you are not familiar about how the program works, just Google it for some easy to understand information.
Greengirl
3:18 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
The mandatory requirement to provide healthcare only affects companies with more than 50 employees. That doesn't apply to most small businesses.
Alison D
11:39 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
TERRIBLE DECISION. What happened to the land of the free? Now our government is mandating that we HAVE to have Insurance? This decision will have an immediate and long-term negative impact on all Americans, both in how they get medicine and health care, and also in vast, yet-unknown areas of "commerce." This is a slippery slope that has just begun.
Some people may believe that this is a good solution and a lot of people will see that through about 2019 you can to get cheap care (please note this WILL NOT BE QUALITY care because physicians will not be getting reimbursed worth a crap) and you will be able to buy insurance on the way to the hospital without recourse. However, after that, the states will have to pay their portion of the reimbursement and the system slowly crumble. Hello USSRA.
not one of 60
11:46 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
The rich one another one today! They can have their own private botique care - the rest of us get use to the DMV and the PO! That's the reality!
Max
11:47 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Fee-for-service physician care will always exist.
Silence Dogood
12:39 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
the sky is falling..
My Opinion
3:38 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Good doctors will not work for the salaries they will be getting paid in the future.
Not Good Doctors, they will start private practices and people who pay will
get the good doctors just like in any other country with socialized healthcare
You think this is free? Think again my friends. Also when you have to wait to
see a doctor, see how long the lines will get for your free doctor..
Bryan
11:53 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
health care needs to be reformed, but not this way. cheap health care is good. Health care for the elderly (esp with pre existing conditions) is a must. But requiring everyone to HAVE health care? redic. what people dont understand is how this will negatively affect the american economy. small businesses suffer, private medical practices will suffer, which will in turn have a negative impact on medical research and development. then entire QUALITY of medical care will go down. Socialism is not a good thing people!!
JustinK
11:43 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Insurance by definition is socialized. You put in a premium, pool up the money, and share the risk so no one has to suffer alone. Healthcare in the US is already socialized in that we allow people to obtain at least some minimal care (via emergency rooms) w/o any concern w/ payment. As a society we've determined we don't allow people to die in front of the hospital w/o insurance. The issue we have is there are millions of freeriders on our current system and that includes illegals, young people who skip insurance in their early healthy years, and the impoverished. Making the insurance pool bigger does make coverage cheaper b/c you have more freeriders paying in.
Healthcare is not a normal good. People don't have a ton of say in how much healthcare they consume. If you're healthy, you have little need for healthcare. If you're dying, every option is on the table whether it's clearing your bank account or leveraging your house. If care was a normal good, we'd all go for the cheapest surgeon, buy the doctor w/ the cheapest cancer treatment, and not care where they got their degree. If you want a market economy, allow the sale of organs. The rich in need of kidneys would instantly drive the price into the mid six figure range. Those who have 2 kidneys and like to roll the dice could get a nice windfall. The rest of us would die while the rich churn through purchased organs.
Jane Patla Tanner
11:57 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Wonderful news.
Mike McMillon
11:57 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Obama knew ObamaCare was a tax, but promised over and over it was not.
Don't buy insurance and your president and representatives will have the IRS come after you.
I assume if you go to the Emergency Room without insurance you can expect to be met by an IRS agent waiting for you like they do in the casinos.
JustinK
11:49 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
It would probably beat if you go to the emergency room now and just leave a fake address so the rest of us that get sent there can enjoy $1,000 IV drips and $20 band aids.
It's only a tax if you decide you want the American people to subsidize the healthcare you will eventually need. The rest of us already buy insurance and pay for your healthcare through various overhead charges, taxes, etc. Don't want to pay, don't earn any money and need to file a tax return. Go live in the wilderness and when a splinter turns gangrenous don't hobble into an emergency room for care.
Unless you plan to off yourself the instant you think you're getting sick, almost all of us will need healthcare.
dianne joy
11:59 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012
From what I hear friends,those opposed to healthcare bill have health care and so do their children. Most of them now hae grandchildren and from what I see, the 30-somethings with kids are a pink slip away from having no health care. Then what? You pay the mortgage, COBRA or for a kid's broken arm? Most people who lose their jobs have to choose. And the preexisting thing--that does not apply to cancer patients, insurance companies have been able to use it to cover ANYTHiNG you ever went to a doctor for as preexisting. If we don't have healthy people and children, who can go to work? And I agree with Chitterbug--congress needs to live like the rest of us!! BTW--I have always had medical insurance but at times, my grown children have not. It is very stressful to know any illness or accident could financially devastate a family.
My Opinion
3:41 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
People without heath care go to hospitals all the time and do not pay.
Ask any ER doctor
Paula
12:21 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
As a husband with a pre-exiting condition, I am relieved that the ACA was upheld.
Paula
12:40 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
So, for the wonderful Georgia politicans, I hear a lot of "repeal", but no thoughts on what you would do to make sure all Americans have access to affordable healthcare - or don't you care, as is my suspicion.
Ann
1:00 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Excellent. But, the Affordable Care Act didn't go far enough. There should be a onepage bill expanding Medicare for all. If you like your for profit health insurance that fights to NOT pay for any healthcare, then fine. If not, you should be able to buy into Medicare.
JG
1:03 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
It is a great day for the American middle class.
My Opinion
3:42 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
What middleclass?? They are shrinking daily and will get even smaller now
Mic
1:19 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
What's next, the government requiring me to buy cotton shirts or a union-made car? When does it end? This is a continuation of the end of free-enterprise.
rick
1:48 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Hey Genius,
Have car insurance?
not one of 60
1:57 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Car insurance analogy is bad - not everyone has to, needs, to or wants to drive!
But if they do they have to have insurance.
Living, that's another choice!
Bryan
2:03 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Rick - car insurance is required for the protection of OTHERS. that an entirely different argument and doesn't apply here.
Péralte Paul
1:45 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I think at the core of this debate is the philosophical question on health care: Do we we as a country believe that everything and anything exists to be commoditized and create profit? Or do we as a society recognize there are things we should do like ensuring all have access to quality healthcare and put people ahead of profit for a change?
not one of 60
2:02 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Nothing is free. Bandages and care givers cost money. Everyone should pay a fair share - I love the mandate. I cannot wait until everyone pays into the system. healthy or not!
Bryan
2:15 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Do you think it is fair that coverage is blanketed? Meaning a 35 year old in excellent health has to pay the same as another 35 year old who is 100 lbs over weight and going to the burger king drive thru every day? Obamacare takes away risk pricing, which in its self, is not fair. Equate it to your car insurance if you must. as a good driver, you should have to pay as much as someone who always gets into wrecks.
not one of 60
2:21 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I think the panels will take care of that...their should be penalites for smopking and obesity! Hopefully the government will outlaw hamburgurs soon, sor of like those big drinks in NYC! All that red meat is bad for people!
not one of 60
1:54 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
The madate is a good thing! Everyone will get less to spend on their greedy selves (iphones/ipads/hair dos) & more on being a respnsible member of society! Including all artists, waiters, and other cash earners - who will have to buy insurnance or pay a BIG FINE! Save that money!
Brian Crowe
5:24 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Actually, those in the jobs you describe would likely have to pay little or at all. In 2014, the tax on 100k would be one percent. The tax penalty would target people making good incomes who choose not to buy insurance, mostly the self-employed I'd guess. Very few people who work for companies that offer health insurance AND make good salaries choose to opt out of insurance.
not one of 60
1:56 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/27/why-the-right-turned-its-back-on-the-individual-mandate.html
not one of 60
1:58 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
There is an implicit contract between households in society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection. If a young man wrecks his Porsche and does not have the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car. Healthcare is different. If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not he has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services – even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab … A mandate on individuals recognizes this implicit contract.”
Kay Clark
3:26 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
It's a great day to be an American. Big thanks to our President.
not one of 60
3:56 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/broccoli-health-care-reform-supreme-court_n_1634576.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Diane Elliston
4:48 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
This is a good step in needed health care reform.
Forbes on why this is good for women:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/brycecovert/2012/06/28/obamacare-decision-why-women-are-the-big-winners-health-care-supreme-court/
Don Broussard
5:53 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal called it "a huge setback for fiscal sanity..."
This from a man who filed personal bankruptcy and hid it from voters as long as he could in the gubernatorial primary???
Eddie E.
7:59 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Apparently, nathan sees the world through a sense of reality quite different than the rest of us.
He would rather keep plenty of attorneys funded for the next 5 years fighting a lost cause than get busy preparing for the inevitable future.
Rod Littles
9:28 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I had almost lost my confidence after the super pack decision. But what did Justice Uncle Thomas do? That would be something if he had the courage of a Thurgood Marshall the country would be better off.
We count our blessings that the American people win! And thank the leaders who supported the effort of the POTUS to get this done for Senator Kennedy and us!
joe stadae
7:31 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
this president is a total a**hole and the attorney general should be in jail......God Bless America
Greengirl
3:24 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Easy to tell that you watch Fox, listen to AM radio, or both.
Eddie E.
7:57 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Now on to Single Payer.
Stop and think for a minute, what value does private, for profit health insurance ADD to the available funds for providing medical care?
I would prefer a Federal system with 5% overhead costs (like medicare) than to be funding bonuses, tv commercials and golf tournaments when I spend a dollar in case I have to go to the doctor!
Jim Davis
12:32 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Chances are... you are going to benefit from Obamacare... Read a short summary about the program and see for yourself.....
The ACA provides an opportunity for most people to obtain coverage with premium support and cost sharing. Unless you are a high income earner, you will probably benefit. A good summary is on the Kaiser Family Foundation "focus on health reform" page. If you are not familiar about how the program works, just Google it for some easy to understand information.
Bill shelper
1:09 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Now it is Buy health insurance or pay the penelty .
Next it will be you have to buy a ford not a Chevy .
Then you can't have your baby without the governments
Permission . Remind you of somewhere else ?
If you do not have the money for insurance how do they think you will have the money to pay the fine ?
However the root cause for this and many problems we have , is our government is out of control .
Each year we lose more of our freedom .
Is it any wonder that sites like international living have seen a 1000% increase in people wanting info to learn how to live in another country .
In Cuba the government has to give you permission , for you to leave the country . So basically you live in jail there .
How long before this happens to us ?
Everyone needs health care , this is a true fact . But if I have to choose food on the table for my children or pay the fine , my kids are eating .
We as Americans have paid a high price for freedom ,
Much blood has been spilled in many other countries to preserve our freedom and the freedom of others .
And now our government wants to take what we fought so hard for away . However it is now fair to compare the justices ruling to Japan attacking Pearl harbor . They have now awoken a sleeping giant ,
And have insured that Mr Obama will not win in November .
John Q Public
2:15 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Bill,
Hello. What will you do when Neil Boortz retires?
JustinK
2:20 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Read up on ACA. If you're poverty or lower, there are subsidies in place plus Medicaid counts as coverage. If you are at poverty level, your health insurance premium maximum is 2% of your household income (sliding scale up to 4X poverty). For a family of 4, poverty = 23k so you'd have to pay ~400/yr for coverage in the healthcare exchanges. I'd be a little more miffed if I was in the top end of income where Medicare taxes just got upped but beyond that it shouldn't change your
For all this freedom you speak of, our current health insurance industry lets you tie people jobs b/c if they quit or get laid off, they're left to fend for themselves if they have pre-existing conditions.
This is a far from perfect law but what's the Republican alternative? Most of these initiatives came from conservative think tanks since Obama was pushing for Single Payer. In this model insurance companies still rake it in, more people get coverage, and we try to close some of the loop where people still get healthcare w/o paying.
Eddie E.
3:36 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
You should learn about the law, because there is not a true statement in your confused rant.
It might also be a good idea to expand your 'news sources', because I recognize the source of many of your misguided notions.
Rosannrosannadanna
2:43 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Yea. Politics is so much fun. Brings out the best in everyone!
Really?
10:25 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Wow so many uninformed responses! Just because our current health care system will find a way to treat antone does not mean they got it free. Those costs are already passed along to you and I. Thanks to ACA now they can get much less expensive primary care rather tan clog up the ER a a higher cost to us all?
Thankful Uninsured
12:06 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
For those that are against this mandate, I have to say that you are probably the ones that have a good job and pay minimally for insurance each month along with the contribution paid by your employer. What I wish for you for one full year is that your employer not make ANY contribution to your insurance premiums each month and for you to bear the full cost of the premium. I think you would be screaming a different sentiment at that juncture. And, God forbid you have a spouse or children that need coverage as well or a pre-existing condition.. You would then feel the pain of those of us who have had to decide between a mortgage payment, electric bill payment, water payment, food, or to pay our heft monthly health insurance premium. This is a great day for those that are unfortunately less fortunate.
Silence Dogood
7:46 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
exactly why i'm for it...i hope it works..
TiQuavious Jones
9:48 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
I just love spending my hard earned money on freeloaders. Now with the government taking over healthcare, benefits can be rationed so that Darwin can start weeding things out.
Susan Bornstein
10:05 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
At first I was a little offended, but it kinda makes sense. You gotta take care of yourself. Poor life choices, "can you biggie size that?" come with consequences.
Diane Elliston
11:12 am on Saturday, June 30, 2012
An informative editorial on the subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/opinion/the-real-winners.html
Wallini
3:21 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Krugman, an informative voice? Only if you live the same alternative dimension. LOL
"E Pluribus Unum"
1:08 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Great day to be an America. Obviously. so many of the negative reactions to the SCOTUS always want to break it down to $. Well, our current system is already outrageously expensive due to the economies of supply and demand. As one example, drug companies test, manufacture, and market drugs with an eye to make high profits, without being overly concerned will it improve the health quality and life of citizens (ie Viagra ). What we have ended up with is the richest country on the planet, getting high end cost medical care, and having health outcomes not as good as third world countries is some instances. Additionally we have millions without medical coverage, living under our noses, many without jobs and medical coverage do to old fashion corporate greed and dishonestly, and folks want to look over them and see them as an incontinence. And there are many of the conservative zealots aledging they are Christians? Sure.
Wallini
3:26 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
"and folks want to look over them and see them as an incontinence"...Say What???
How about some action to thwart the ridiculous legal CYA's that physicians must do that adds exponentially to the cost of healthcare. Obamatax does nothing to address this major "cost".
Silence Dogood
1:30 am on Monday, July 2, 2012
I happened to be fully employed, highly paid and insured liberal human being, who is willing to help my fellow man anyway i can, you must be a bible thumping hypocrite.
Catherine Owen
12:26 pm on Thursday, July 5, 2012
I hope Deal gets slapped down for trying to deprive Georgians of the health care benefits that have finally been
assured to us.